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Podcast Interview With Guests Gina Passarella and David Gialanella | Baretz+Brunelle

Written by Baretz+Brunelle | Aug 20, 2026, 9:30:00 AM

In this episode of The Future Is Bright podcast, Howard Rosenberg, head of Talent Intelligence + Acquisitions at Baretz+Brunelle, and his co-host Chris Batz welcome Gina Passarella, group chief content officer, and David Gialanella, editor-in-chief, both of Law.com. Law.com is part of Centellic, the legal-industry focused platform formed in May 2025 following the merger of ALM and Law Business Research (LBR). Gina has covered the legal industry since 2005 and now helps shape how that reporting reaches the market; David joined in 2010 and has spent his career watching law firm strategy up close, including partner compensation and firm mergers. Together they are living through a media merger of their own, the same kind of consolidation they have spent years covering from the outside.

The conversation moves through what the legal industry still won’t say about itself, starting with partner compensation. Gina and David describe pay structures that have moved well past lockstep into something far more intricate, and they point out how much variance sits below the surface of the averages published every year. The discussion turns to artificial intelligence, and the gap between firms building real capability and firms managing the message around it. From there, the conversation turns to money, specifically whether private capital could reshape Big Law the same way it already has personal injury practices, and what a research project mapping the legal profession out to 2040 suggests about where the industry could end up.

 

Episode Highlights

  • The Comp Data Firms Still Won’t Share
    Partner pay has moved well past lockstep into something far more intricate. What years of conversations with firm leaders willing to explain their own model keep revealing, and why the averages firms publish miss the real picture.

  • Two Kinds of Firms When It Comes to AI
    Some firms are genuinely building AI capability inside their practices. Others are mainly managing how that capability looks from the outside, and the conversation digs into how to tell the two apart.

  • Private Capital’s Opening Into Big Law
    Outside investment has already reached personal injury firms in plain view. The conversation asks whether it will eventually reach the biggest firms too, and what that would mean for how partners are paid and retained.

  • Mapping the Legal Industry Out to 2040
    A multiyear research project builds out possible futures for the profession, from consolidated technology to a wide-open market for legal work. Full results land at an industry summit this fall.

  • Could a Law Firm Go Public by 2040
    Gina and David land in different places on this one, weighing which regulatory walls would have to fall first and how close the industry already is to finding out.


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On The Future Is Bright, Howard Rosenberg and Chris Batz engage with thought-provoking C-suite executives and leaders from corporations, professional service firms, and the global legal industry. Each episode uncovers insights on leadership, innovation, and the evolving dynamics of the modern professional landscape.

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