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title: Joe Borstein Interviews Jared Applegate, Chief Legal Operations Officer at Barnes & Thornburg
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# [Joe Borstein Interviews Jared Applegate, Chief Legal Operations Officer at Barnes & Thornburg](https://blog.baretzbrunelle.com/insights/joe-borstein-interviews-jared-applegate-chief-legal-operations-officer-at-barnes-thornburg)

 Written by [Admin](https://blog.baretzbrunelle.com/insights/author/admin) | Aug 13, 2021 1:30:00 PM

In this episode of the Future Law Bootcamp podcast, [Joe Borstein](https://www.baretzbrunelle.com/joe-borstein), Baretz+Brunelle partner and LexFusion co-founder, speaks with Jared Applegate, chief legal operations officer at Barnes & Thornburg, about building a modern legal operations function inside a law firm.

Jared shares his perspective on how his team reduces friction for clients and increases efficiency for attorneys, and tackles the “legal innovation paradox” where new tools can appear to threaten revenue under the billable hour. He offers practical advice for overcoming resistance: lead with relationships, transparency, and sales skills.

For those navigating legal tech’s explosion, Jared emphasizes solving real problems with pragmatic, tech-enabled solutions. 

Tune in to their conversation on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg3GjQJgpX0). 

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